The time has finally come for me to write down the entire story of what happened at PantheaCon 2011 and thereafter. I have spent the past several months wondering how to address this, musing over it, thinking about it, and practicing discernment about what I would share and with whom, in an effort to create greatest possible clarity while creating the most possible peace. In the end, at the encouragement of several Elders whom I respect, I am going to just offer complete transparency about this process of growth for me and CAYA Coven. This is long. If you stick with it, you will end up with a lot of really important information about the actual events of this past year from a firsthand source (me) who has been witness to many different pieces of the puzzle.
First, the backstory:
In 2007, I was ordained by Z Budapest in the Dianic Tradition. I have been, within my eclectic practice, engaged in Dianic circles since 2005, and I have been a feminist witch for my entire adult life. When I found my Dianic practice, it offered me a great deal of personal healing from past experiences, from body shame, from shame in my menstrual blood, and from fear of my power as a woman in a society that subtly and overtly conditions women to be fearful of power. The Dianic Tradition offered me a version of the Divine that looked like me, smelled like me, bled like me, and understood my worldview. I am deeply grateful for this work, as it helped me to grow in my confidence and personal sense of authority over my own life.
My journey from a personal practice in women-centered magic to High Priestesshood in the Dianic Tradition is another piece of data that bears explanation. Z Budapest has historically viewed ordination as the reward for work already completed, as opposed to an end destination for a series of classes. This is a crucial difference from other Mystery Traditions, which confer authority as a result of a period of study with a teacher. At the time I met Z, I had already founded CAYA Coven, and we had a membership of about 50 people. I was ordained on that basis, rather than as the result of taking a series of classes. I think it is important for me to share this, because many people have assumed that because I was ordained by Z, I was her student and am trained in her way of thinking. But to the contrary, Z has often made public and private statements to the effect that I arrived at her doorstep already trained, which is true. I trained myself, with hard work, study and first-hand experience in pagan leadership. I owe a lot to Z's books, to our friendship, and also to the books of many others, and to two significant teachers from my past whose names I do not release here because they maintain lives as private individuals. I do feel that I arrived at Z's doorstep ready to begin the lifetime journey of High Priestesshood, not as a student but as a colleague, friend, and one who enjoyed her writings in my formative years of the Craft.
Part of my commitment to lifelong learning about how to be an effective High Priestess has involved a strong amount of discernment about which policies, opinions, and practices of the Dianic Tradition best serve my worship of the Goddess, and which do not. When I look at the other Dianic High Priesteses in this lineage, I see a strong trend toward diversity. We are not all the same, we do not all share the same views, and we each bring our own flavor of practice to the Tradition. Not all of my Dianic colleagues practice the exact same way, above and beyond holding a central view of the Goddess as primary. Ask ten Dianics the same basic question about how we worship (or even if we would call it "worship"), and you'll get ten different answers. There is strength in that personalization. Though the difference of opinion can occasionally lead to conflict and disagreements, that seems natural in any living Tradition.
Fast forward to 2011: CAYA Coven has grown and now has some 500 members attending 6 different circles in two separate Covens in the Bay Area. I founded, and along with all other members, continue to develop the Wildflower Clergy Collective, which is our path of training in magical community service open via application to all women, men and those who wish not to identify based on gender who have completed our Dedicant classes and who are able to demonstrate the high level of preparedness and the supportive life environment we feel best befit the rigors of active service. We offer somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 circles per year, participate in several local community initiatives, and each have an extensive personal practice in addition to our public work. For 6 years now, we have welcomed all individuals to "Come As You Are" to our rites, and we mean it. We have enjoyed the company and presence of many individuals from diverse walks of life, paths, belief systems, and political backgrounds. Our Sabbats have always been open to all, regardless of gender, and our gender-focused full moon circles have always been open to all self-identified individuals, regardless of sex at birth. We have hosted transgender women and men in our Coven from the very beginning.
Within CAYA, there are also small, closed, invite-only affinity groups for the sake of specific personal work. These groups perform rituals and activities that they may or may not share with the public, as the groups see fit. These groups vary in theme. Some are gender-related, some are focused on other areas of personal development. One of these "inner court" groups is my Dianic lineage, the Amazon Priestess Tribe. This lineage is focused on the mysteries of the yoni, the woman's menstrual cycle as a lens for the life cycle, birth, croning, and personal healing. This Dianic group is a closed, safe, intimate place for the women in my Clergy to find, as I did, empowerment in our bodies just as they are. And it is/has been good work.
The Amazons, having attended numerous PantheaCon events and having witnessed and participated in many Dianic rites there, began proposing and offering Dianic rituals at PCon in 2009 with a rite to Artemis. In 2010 we offered a Dance of the 7 Veils. In 2011, we offered the Rite of Lilith. One key component of all the rituals the Amazons offer at PCon, and indeed all the rituals we do anytime, is that they are completely skyclad. We do not require all attendees to be entirely nude for our rites, but our priestesses are and it is strongly encouraged, as we feel there is a primal power in the naked female body that can be seen, heard, smelled, and felt in a visceral way when we gather to practice. We do not purport to be fully inclusive; we are not. However, we have chosen to share our rituals at places like PantheaCon in a spirit of generosity, without presumption. We do not think of our way as the only way nor even the best way. We are just sharing what we do with what we hope to be an enthusiastic population of fellow Dianic travelers at a large event where many different groups offer their practices to one another.
When I was writing the proposal for PCon 2011 about the Rite of Lilith, I made a crucial error in not specifying that this was a nude ritual designed for women. Although I used the terms "Amazon" and "skyclad" in my description of the rite, I take full personal responsibility that these terms are not universally clear. At the beginning of the rite, as we were figuring out some technical difficulties that caused a late start, I was approached by a member of PCon staff. He asked me if this was a rite for women, and I said yes. He replied that some men had gathered and wanted to attend, and would I please come and make an announcement about it. I agreed, and entered the hall where people were gathering. I saw that there were, indeed, men who were clearly dressed in men's clothing and who clearly live full-time as men waiting. I apologized for the delay, and also for the confusion. There was also one individual there whom I know personally, who does shift gender identity from time to time, and who was dressed that evening as a man. I said, "This is going to be a naked ritual for women. I am so sorry this was not clear in the program, but that is what it is. So, if you are not a woman, willing and able to be naked among other naked women, this is not the ritual for you. I appreciate that there is such wide interest here, and next year we will offer a more inclusive proposal. Thank you so much for understanding, and I am very sorry for any inconvenience." After I had made the announcement, we opened the doors and let anyone still in line enter the room. We did not check to make certain that all were cis-women (this, for those who might not know, is the more widely-accepted term for the phrase "woman-born-woman" which you may have heard in other contexts and which is considered offensive by many transgender people.) We did not ask any woman to remove more clothing than she was comfortable with. We believe there to have been at least one trans woman at the ritual, but we cannot be certain as she has never stepped forward amidst this conflict. Either way, we were prepared to host any woman who respectfully remained after I made the announcement.
Unbeknownst to me, several gender equality activists had pre-planned a protest at PantheaCon regarding the issue of gender-and-sex-exclusive spaces. Unbeknownst to me, this group had already contacted the Pagan Newswire Collective letting them know that they planned this action. Unbeknownst to me, they were outside protesting our ritual while we were figuring out our technical difficulties, and saying that we excluded trans women. THE AMAZONS HAVE NEVER TURNED A TRANS WOMAN AWAY AT THE DOOR OF ANY OUR RITUALS. We believe in personal integrity. We believe that in women's culture, if a woman sets a boundary about her preferences, other women will honor that boundary. We believe that if any woman is in need of healing and is prepared to participate respectfully, lovingly and kindly in a ritual for such, she should have it. We do not do penis-checks or pat-downs. WE DO ASK THAT ALL PARTICIPANTS AT AMAZON RITUALS BE ABLE TO BE NAKED AND ALLOW THEIR YONIS TO BE PRESENT IN THE RITUAL SPACE for the purpose of a particular type of visceral experience, much the same way others hearken to the witches rune and gather naked at their own rites for their own purposes. There are many women, both cis- and trans-, who struggle with public nudity. There are many women, cis- and trans-, for whom this type of ritual might be triggering. There are also many women, cis- and trans-, who do not feel called to this particular type of worship. We support thoughtfulness and personal responsibility in the matter of selecting the rituals that will be most personally helpful, creating the necessary boundaries for any specific type of work one feels called to do, and respecting the boundaries of others, whether we share those boundaries and agree with them or not.
Unbeknownst to me, at the same PantheaCon where we hosted our controversial ritual in a small, back-corner meeting room, there was a ritual happening upstairs in a main ballroom where any woman who was currently menstruating was not allowed to attend. Has that been mentioned, protested against, pointed out as cruel, violent, hateful, or unfair as often as our ritual has? No. In fact, it has barely come up. Apparently, it is not considered violent to make a woman stand aside due to her menstruation. Apparently, it is allowable to delineate space on the basis of biology if one practices some Traditions, but not others. Apparently, it is less offensive to exclude a bleeding woman than to celebrate her. Mind you, I respect this group's right to host a ritual that is authentic to their Tradition, even if it appears to be in direct conflict with one of my core spiritual beliefs in celebrating a woman's blood. I trust that there are many paths through this forest, and some of them are meant to remain Mysteries to me. However, I object to the disparity in public outrage that feels symptomatic of misogyny. [Editorial note: see comments section for an expanded view on this topic, thanks to Geoffrey.]
I think it is important to say here that I do not think the PantheaCon organizers or staff were at fault in any way for this incident. I imagine that the amount of angry correspondences they have received trumps mine by the hundreds, about this issue and any number of other issues that create strong emotions around this powerful event. I think the staff of PCon put together an amazing weekend with a truly awesome staff so that we can all enjoy ourselves and express ourselves. That is incredible, and I think it is a bargain at the admission price they charge for a Festival of this scope. I admire the fact that Glenn and her staff have managed to keep this event sustainable and strikingly diverse from year to year. I expressed an apology in an email to the PantheaCon staff after this all began to transpire, and I received a warm response that indicated they understand this to be a delicate situation, and they have handled many delicate situations over time. I really appreciate this Con, and its organizers, and its staff, having had countless positive experiences with many different members of the team. I am grateful that they chose this coming year's theme, "Unity in Diversity," with such responsiveness and care, and I look forward to seeing what programs get selected to iterate that theme.
After our ritual was over, the Amazons went about the rest of our Con as usual, attending workshops and rituals, socializing with friends from near and far, and enjoying ourselves. Unbeknownst to us, a storm was brewing and a meeting was held at which we were a primary focal point of the discussion due to our ritual and our request that the space be reserved for women's naked worship. At no point did a single organizer of that meeting seek us out, alert us that there were questions and issues that needed to be addressed, nor were we told that we were the cause of this stir. When Wendy Griffin appeared at that meeting, she asked the organizers why CAYA was not in attendance, and was told that "they could not find us to invite us."
I find that very difficult to believe. CAYA Coven usually occupies an entire wing of the hotel at PCon because we bring so many people. Literally, there are typically 50 of us there, wearing CAYA t-shirts, badges with our Coven's name on it, presenting rituals and workshops as CAYA members listed in the program. The main organizing staff at PCon knows many of us by name and face, and could easily have helped the meeting organizers find us had they been asked to do so. My business had a booth in the vendor room with my name attached to it that could have easily been found to give me a message to attend this meeting. There is absolutely no reason why anyone in the reasonably small DoubleTree building could not find one single one of us with the day's notice they had before this meeting. Instead, we were not invited to this meeting, where we would gladly have shared that we had turned no woman away from our ritual, that we were completely willing to engage in discussion about this topic, and that we would be happy to explain our approach to eclectic paganism as all-inclusive, meaning that even when conflicting views arise, we make space for them all and work through them together. Instead, by the time we were alerted that we were a major focal point of this meeting, it was almost over. And by the time the misreports of our "exclusionary ritual" hit the blogosphere and erupted in a huge game of Telephone, it was too late to counter fiction with fact in a way that even mattered to most. CAYA Coven was judged and sentenced without a fair trial in the minds of many people, all over the country, whether they knew us, spoke with us, had been in attendance at our ritual, or not.
And into this, Z arrived, and she came swinging. While I honor Z's many, many contributions to women's culture and feminine spirituality, I cannot condone speech that is filled with hate, neither against me nor on my behalf. I would not and have not communicated my opinions in those terms. I respect Z's right to hold whatever opinions, thoughts, and practices she chooses, and my expectation is that we are all given that freedom to do, think, speak, or feel as we choose. My reasons for creating specific sacred spaces are not merely rote from my Tradition; they are my own, and I believe each of us has the right to create our own sacred spaces as we wish.
When the Internet erupted, CAYA carefully worked on a statement that addressed our position and reflected our all-inclusive approach to this topic. Be warned- it is not bite-sized. We in CAYA Clergy all agreed that this was not a bite-sized issue, and that it deserved full explanation. For those who do not know, have not read that long statement, or who would prefer a quick view of its core: we hold the space, as a Coven, to respect each individual's right to worship exactly as he or she pleases and finds most rewarding. Full stop. We do not promise, nor attempt, to provide for all possible needs and every single possible practice with our limited capacity of volunteer Clergy. That would be impossible, though with sufficient growth in our population of mindful and magically-gifted individuals over time, we can easily see providing for a great many more needs. At this time, we do all we can to create safe spaces for a number of different types of practice in our 6 circles: public, private, gendered, non-gendered, multicultural and multi-focal, singular-in-focus and clearly-defined...each person in CAYA brings his or her own mix of ideas and practices to the table, and we work through the very real and sometimes difficult and always rewarding process of letting everyone come as they are, enjoy what we can offer if they want to, and find/make their own way in our community if it feels right to them. We do our best to create safe containers, and we don't do a lot of hand-holding beyond that point, because we're personal-responsibility-and-free-will-type people.
Of course, no one can please everyone, and both before and after CAYA issued our statement we received backlash. In the past year I have fielded dozens of e-mails calling me names, making wide assumptions of our practices or intent (often from people who know nothing about us and had not read our statement.) In one case, we were told we were "a bunch of self-righteous breeders who worship our wombs." In two incidences, I was sent death threats and in others, threats of violence, a la "one of these days we'll cross paths and then you'll get what's coming to you." It was really painful and disconcerting to be threatened with death and violence as someone's idea of justice for a situation that did not actually occur the way it was reported. It bespoke, to me, a massive appropriation of the violent rhetoric of patriarchal domination. "If you don't give me what I want, I'll hurt or kill you." Isn't that the battle cry of the rapist, the colonizer? This has no place in the kind of civil discourse I strive for, teach, and pray for on a regular basis.
Further, even after we issued our statement, in a still-kind-of-unbelievable situation, I was called in to the Berkeley City Council chambers in May by my councilman, Kris Worthington. Ironically, I have voted for this man in the past several City Council elections because I admire his bold and radical approach to local politics. Why was I called in to chambers? Because The Pagan Alliance had chosen to honor me as their 2011 Keeper of the Light in acknowledgement of my local efforts to be of support to the pagan community. He was trying to decide if he would pull the permits for their entire Festival the day before the event due to an unsubstantiated and unresearched complaint that I was a transphobic individual who was hosting exclusionary rituals on city property. He lectured me for the better part of a half hour about how important it is for us to accept the self-definition of all people(a position I wholeheartedly support), all the while using terms like "women-born-women" in his lecture (demonstrating that he was not actually as well-read in this area as he proclaimed to be). I explained to Mr. Worthington that all of CAYA's rituals were open to all, and that the Amazon rituals were actually performed in the nude as privately-organized, invitation-based religious events for women. I explained that CAYA had hosted trans women in our public rituals from the beginning, but reserved the right for any internal group to have private events around whatever criteria we felt most appropriate. I explained that our Amazon Mysteries surrounded the yoni and menstrual cycle, and that having both of these things was the pre-qualifier for entry into our private events. He said, "Oh." I asked him if he had visited our web site and read our statement on this subject after receiving this misinformation about me and my Coven. He said, "No." I said, "I am fairly certain that I am within my rights to A) practice my religion as I see fit in the United States of America, and B) offer invitation-based events on private property delineating any boundaries I choose that are within the scope of legal activities. What I am not certain of, Mr. Worthington, is if you are actually within your legal rights to have me here without doing the research to substantiate or dispel this complaint against me, or to pull the permits on this Festival without any proof that I have engaged in trans-phobic or hateful activities, which I have not." He said, "Weeelllll, sometimes people get angry without knowing all the facts." I said, "Tell me about it." and left. I really appreciate that Kris Worthington is outspoken and supportive of each and every person's right to self-define. I agree. I do wish, as I often wish with politicians, that he had checked his facts first.
The next day, the Festival was beautiful. I worked magic for this: that everyone in attendance would really be able to fully enjoy a lovely day of being pagan together. Even in the relatively liberal Bay Area, there are many folks whose jobs or other obligations keep them in the broom closet. Events like these are crucial for community building, and represent a rich Interfaith experience for all. I was informed that the Pagan Alliance had to provide extra funds for extra police presence, since I had received death threats. There were also threats that protesters would show up at the event which was now being billed in certain circles as a transphobic event (despite the fact that The Pagan Alliance is an organization committed to all forms of civil equity for all pagans, and Transgender SF, The Fellowship of the Spiral Path, and Circle of Dionysus were main supporters of the event, each of which holds a commitment to gender diversity and specifically commitment to trans issues at the core of their organization.) I, and CAYA are members of Fellowship of the Spiral Path, and we are supporters of the Circle of Dionysus. My partner and I performed music with the Circle of Dionysus at the Festival that day with 2 other CAYA members and several other CoD members. It ended up, after all that pre-fear, being a wonderful day. I received the Keeper of the Light sacra from previous KoL joi wolfwomyn, an outspoken, genuis, down-to-Earth trans-identified activist, a devoutly irreverent Discordian, and local/national witch-about-the-world who offers wisdom with humor and a heaping dose of reality. joi and I rode in the parade together with previous Keepers of the Light M. Macha NightMare, Don Frew, and Max Dashu. joi was dressed in a glittering tuxedo, I was in a white dress. We looked like a crazy wedding cake topper. Members of my Coven marched in the parade as well, wearing rabbit ears. Laughter really is the CAYA way, and the best medicine.
By this time, The Pagan Alliance was already planning their Conference on Gender and Paganism, which CAYA sponsored, provided volunteers for, and at which we offered a Ritual of Radical Forgiveness that I had written. I spent the summer pondering many different challenging questions: how could I ethically deal with a pagan community where death threats and unsubstantiated rumor were unfolding? How could I find ways to create a spiral of good in this situation that benefited all parties? How could I generate what I felt to be the correct energy of compassion, vulnerability, and openness for truly heartfelt discussion to be shared? How could I uphold my own commitment to providing sacred space for all, on their own terms, in the face of pressure from both gender equality activists and fellow Dianics to shut out the other side's needs? From these questions, I created this ritual and offered it. I also posted the outline and an explanation of it here on my blog. My good friend Ava Park of the Goddess Temple of Orange County has a phrase she uses in her teachings that I appreciate as a High Priestess. "Lead like water," she says, "always seeking the lowest point, the most natural channel."
In an effort to lead like water, I offered public apology for my error in describing the intended audience for the Rite of Lilith, and for any trouble or harm it has caused, in any direction or at any time, whether intended or otherwise. I also offered heartfelt forgiveness to all who had threatened me, called me names, or caused harm to me as a way to centralize healing for all. I did my magical best to create a wave of good. I stand by this ritual, its intention, and its enactment as the right thing to do. It was, in fact, the only thing I felt appropriate. Many different individuals from that event expressed their appreciation for it. Many who have denounced it were not present, so how would they know?
I am only now, on the other side of that magical and energetic shift, feeling ready to write this story down in its entirety. I have spent the past six months working through: working through the morass of public misinformation, working through challenging questions around my personal practices, working through anger toward those who wished me harm, working through resentment at those who sent private letters of support but never stepped up to support me publicly, working through the sadness of being denounced within certain segments of my Tradition for even entertaining the question of transgender women and men in consensual Dianic spaces, working through the bitterness of watching others expand their personal public relations and media presence by denouncing my Coven (again, most of whom have never attended a single one of our events or rituals). There was a lot of suffering in that working through. I believe that suffering tends to spill over onto others if not carried mindfully, and I have done my best to just minimize harm rather than lash out or get too fully into the mix in anger. Because I truly believe that solves nothing. I have been successful in my personal restraint more often than I have not, and I count that as growth.
So, where am I now, and where is CAYA now? CAYA proposed three rituals for PantheaCon 2012: one all-inclusive and two for self-identified men and women, respectively. The Amazons proposed one ritual: a naked ritual for women. I proposed one on my own: a devotional to Yeshe Tsogyal, one of the ancestresses in my personal pantheaon. I also proposed, along with Devin Hunter,a pan-Dianic, all-inclusive ritual for anyone who wants to experience the Dianic perspective of Goddess-as-Whole-and-Complete-Unto-Herself. I feel like we flung a bunch of possibilities toward the staff of PCon for the sake of greatest diversity, and I trust that they will figure out what fits best into mix, if any of them at all. If you plan to be there, and we have been accepted, consider giving CAYA rites a try even if you've been mad at us this whole time. You really stand to lose nothing by coming to see for yourself who we are and what we do.
As for me, I have deepened in my personal practices as a result of this experience. I am solidly continuing to acknowledge my long-held belief that every single person has the right to worship as they choose, whether I am interested, included, or not. And I am continuing to provide as many different types of ritual spaces as I am able, to meet the widest variety of needs.
May these words prove to be a source of goodness and benefit, and if they are lacking in any way, let that fall upon me. If there be any merit, it is because of the guidance of my divine indwelling spirit, and I am grateful. Blessed be.
Thank you for sharing your story and this journey. I hope that as the Wheel turns, this path leads to a way of understanding and compassion by all. Blessed be!
ReplyDeleteRabbit, I am both saddened and unsurprised by this. No matter how enlightened the Pagan community in general, or any particular subgroup is supposed to be, there seems to be a tendency to assume someone is acting in bad faith and misconstrue innocent acts. I am sorry that you had to go through this dreadful experience, when you are anything but transphobic or hateful in any way. I am happy you found a way to go forward and do your thing in a wise and gracious manner. Blessings to you, always.
ReplyDeleteAs a person still "in the broom closet" it saddens me to see the out and about folks doing this. I hope we can all be more supportive of our elders. Thank you for your well written post and your clear and beautiful pathworkings. BB
ReplyDeleteRabbit, you are a wonderful priestess. I have felt a connection to you since the first time I met you when we were both vendors at the magical event in Oakland... and later when you did a reading for me right before my first degree.
ReplyDeleteThank you for writing this, the time is right. I have continued to support CAYA privately and publicly. I hope you know that there are some of us who did speak out. You have handled this horrific circumstance with grace and love. I honor you for that.
I have replied, on my facebook page, to the exclusion of menstruating women comment. I'm sorry that the exclusion was not better explained to you, however it isn't attendance that is prohibited. Service to Danbala Wedo whilst bleeding, no matter your gender or the reason you are bleeding, is forbidden in Fos Fe Yo We, La Fraicheur Belle Fleur Guinee, and Sipote Ki Di.
ReplyDeleteI cannot speak for any other Haitian lineage. I am not a member of them, and my grasp of the regleman of service is the regleman Fos Fe Yo We abides by. However, this, as I understand it, isn't a small prohibition restricted to our lineages. When you bleed, you cannot serve Paren Danbala.
You are more than welcome, however, to attend our public sevis, and participate from your seat. You shouldn't be doing vire (turns) for him, however. You are welcome to sing, to call for him to appear, and to offer your own devotion to him in your heart. You aren't permitted to salute him.
Before you bring up exclusion, it's probably best to find out what the exclusion actually is, and understand it. I did my best not to get involved in the gender drama at the con from either side. My opinions on the subject aren't relevant. However, I do resent the statement that we are ostracizing a woman who is menstruating rather than celebrating her.
More detailed explanations of why are on my facebook wall, and I'd be happy to email them to you, Rabbit, if you are interested.
Respectfully,
Geoffrey
Dear Geoffrey,
ReplyDeleteI empathize with your exhaustion at having to explain and apologize if my comments above were out of alignment with your values. From my westernized feminist perspective, this particular prohibition strikes a nerve. However, in the global context, I can appreciate and respect that this mystery is simply not one to which I am acculturated nor in which I am educated. Thank you for the invitation to come and experience your rites for myself. Please feel free to post further links here as comments if you wish to make your explanations visible to potential individuals who might need to read them (including me), and please note that I have edited my blog to reference this comment. Blessings, Rabbit
Hi there ;)
ReplyDeleteI wanted to make a little comment in the hopes of clearing up one little misunderstanding...
It was mentioned that the rite upstairs barred women having their menses, which isnt *entirely true* but has a bit of a windy explanation to get there. ;)
Vodou does not bar *anyone* for having their menses... ever. All Vodou celebrations are public, open to all regardless of menses, social-label status of ANY kind, or any reason.
*for attendees.*
To Salute the spirits actively is something more than attending... the folks performing the salute (standing up, doing the turns for the spirits, pouring out the water or other offering liquids) have some certain restrictions, and those generally depend on which Spirit is being called at the time... some require our version of Ritual Purity (where the person saluting has to not have had sexual contact for the previous 24 hrs, etc) and other Spirits, like Damballah, cannot be in the presence of Blood, Smoke, or Alcohol.
*but that only applies to the people actively saluting that particular spirit*
NONE of this is a statement about the cleanliness of women on their moon time, or ANY statement of gender disqualification... its just ONE particular lwa who cannot be in the presence of blood of ANY kind (Im male, so I dont menstruate, but I have had to sit out a salute for Damballah for having skinned my knee... the presence of the blood, however minute, was enough to disqualify me from that salute... and Im a high priest of Vodou. ;) Still had to obey that rule.)
In terms of gender inclusivity, Vodou specifically is one of the few Ancient faiths to have complete gender equality; Initiated women and men share responsibilities equally (and Manbo, female priests, have also always had exact equal pay with the Houngans, their male counterparts). Noone is *ever* barred from ritual for menstruating... but any person who has any blood on them, any open wound or injury, or who happens to be mentruating at that moment cannot be on the saluting team for Damballah (but they can most definitely be present; they should just sit for that one salute out of all of the salutes performed in that rite.)
I hope that helps clear up any misconceptions... we would never so dishonor our sisters by keeping them out of ritual.
Bozanfe Bon Oungan
Houngan Matt
Sosyete Nago
Thank you, Houngan Matt. The clarification is appreciated and duly noted.
ReplyDeleteI am throwing in my hat of support, Rabbit. I have known you for quite a few years and was shocked when the news first hit. I wrote you privately to ask what happened, and you responded quickly and compassionately and factually. I have been incredibly impressed at your patience, humility, and commitment to compassion through this whole process. Reading through your report here only strengthens the regard with which I hold you.
ReplyDeleteFor better or for worse, this whole process has caused many important questions around gender and gender inclusivity to rise to the surface and be dealt with in a deeper way by the broader pagan community. While it totally sucks that you guys ended up being the bad guys in the story, there has been quite a lot of important conversations that have occurred in the past year, important policies rewritten, lots of thought and I think a fair amount of healing. Your event did end up providing a catalyst for stuff that needed to happen anyway. I am sorry that you got cast as villain; I'm not sorry that the conversations happened. (I hate it when the gods test us like that - they wouldn't have done that to you and yours if they didn't know you could handle it)
Blessings to you and blessings to CAYA. I look forward to seeing what you all do next.
in frith,
Bari Mandelbaum
Thank you, Kristi, Ruth, Tinnekke, and Crystal, for your kind and helpful words.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Bari, for this comment and support as well. I agree entirely that these conversations needed to happen, and I do ruefully admit that I am only unhappy with my location within the discourse to date. But already, that location is improving and I am feeling more complete for having shared my own piece of the collective story. I extend to you also my appreciation for being the first person to explain the terminology of "cis" and "trans" to me so that my journey forward from that point could be more informed and sensitive.
Love and respect,
Rabbit
To begin, I am sorry that there is still drama occurring over what happened last year, and I hope that we will all be able to sort out a clear and better path toward the future, where we can be inclusive or exclusive as Spirit requires without taking personal offense, or without anybody using said inclusive/exclusivity to discriminate. Exclusive and discriminatory should never be the same things.
ReplyDeleteThat being said I feel a need to point out to you that yes, actually, the Vodou ceremony you mention where menstruating females were asked not to salute the Lwa if they were actively bleeding, DID get quite a bit of controversy, and we had people complain and walk out. We have had that happen every year that we have done the ceremony, regardless of the fact that we explain that it is not anything to do with gender and everything to do with blood (men or children or postmenopausal women who have any sorts of cuts or blood on their skin are also asked not to salute the spirits). However, all are allowed to attend, regardless of blood status - it just means that particular spirit we serve asks us not to have blood on the outside of our bodies when we serve Him. I would be very happy to explain how Haitian Vodou works to anyone who asks. Email me at andezo@gmail.com - you'll find out it's remarkably free of gender problems, and only a handful of Lwa have issues with blood. Unfortunately, because Pcon requires that we cannot light any fire, the only Lwa we can safely call is one who doesn't like blood, so we avoid it in order not to offend Him. Considering He's also the earth, and when He gets mad, He causes earthquakes...maybe it's a good idea we ask people not to be bleeding? :) -Mambo Chita Tann (Mambo T)
Mambo T, thank you for this clarification, and for the brilliant suggestion of shifting the language toward greater overall clarity toward the Presence of blood at the rite. I deeply appreciate your explanation here, and look forward to hopefully participating in a future ritual you offer at PCon so that my own learning can continue.
ReplyDeleteWarmth and respect,
Rabbit
Rabbit, thank you for writing this. It feels very helpful to the ongoing discussions.
ReplyDeleteI do wish you had been able to write this up several months ago, as I feel this explanation would have helped to clarify your (and CAYA's) position better and forestalled some of the brouhaha. I also know that things get written when the energy feels right.
May we all continue to learn and grow, together.
blessings - T>
Thank you, Thorn. One aspect I failed to mention here was that just after PCon, I sat for an extensive interview with a reporter from the Bay Area branch of the Pagan Newswire Collective in which several of the Amazons and I explained a lot of this information. Unfortunately, the article based on that interview never materialized. Waiting for this article to come out was one reason for my personal delay, but the more significant reason is that I personally practice long-view discernment to the best of my ability. I have not found that my own instant reactions or judgments are the best ones or more serviceable ones. My mother once cautioned me to "never put anything into writing that I might regret later." I take that to heart, and thus deliberately waited to write until I could get behind every word from a place of non-defensiveness and highest possible intent of good for all, rather than answering to the immediacy of fear, anger, and public criticism. I teach my students to wait for as long as it takes until they can respond mindfully. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't walk my talk :) and as you can see from the helpful comments of Geoffrey, Matt, and Mambo T, I still did not manage to get it all correct. But I do agree: YES to further learning for us all :)
ReplyDeleteEver unfolding,
Rabbit
Rabbit, thank you for your clarity on this, and for finally speaking out on what actually happened from where you stood.
ReplyDeleteLike Bari, I agree that a lot of important work and conversation came out of this. I'm sorry you were stuck in the middle. I can only hope that the controversy has resulted in some improvement to addressing trans issues in the Pagan communities.
Thank you for this, Dear Rabbit. May there continue to be peace and healing on this issue for all. May She continue to shine on you and through you.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for this, Rabbit.
ReplyDeleteAs a committed ally of CAYA Coven, and as a long-time friend of yours, I've been of the opinion since the start that this was a misunderstanding, and I hope that in the various reactions to this that have happened, I have continued to uphold that position. As Erynn and several others have mentioned, a lot of important discussions did emerge from this; and while I won't say that, therefore, all of this "was a good thing," especially since there were death-threats against you involved, and that's never a good thing for anyone, I think you've been quite exemplary in terms of how you've handled the situation as it developed, and your explanations here go a very long way in alleviating any further fears or misunderstandings that may be lingering at this point.
I had a few comments on my blog that I deleted/never approved that were writing against you in particular, which I found quite shocking and upsetting; I didn't want to alarm you with them when they happened, and on reflection, I'm glad that I didn't, because you had more than enough to deal with in that regard yourself. (Crikey!)
So, thank you again for this! I've got something that has entirely emerged out of this situation (and some others that were also PantheaCon-2011-in-general-related), which I'll let you know more about next month when it comes out, if all goes to plan. The Ekklesía Antínoou remains CAYA Coven's ally, and I certainly remain your friend--and fan! ;) Much love and many blessings of all the deities to you!
Thank you Erynn, Amy, & Phillip, for your kind words of support. Thank you for taking the time to read the whole thing. I appreciate it deeply.
ReplyDeletePhillip, I have admired your wise worldview since we were in school together studying...Sacred Theatre of the Middle Ages and Greek Tragedy, if I'm not mistaken? I remember a wonderful autumn day standing in the wind and discussing divination based on bird flight and lycanthropy. I remember re-discovering one another at PCon in a totally new context with such joy. I am grateful that CAYA and I were invited to partake of Communalia with the Ekklesia Antinoou, and I stand firm in the commitments that we made that day. "Our blades are your blades. Our songs are your songs. If you are ever in need, call upon us." I thank you for the very thoughtful posts to your amazing blog around this topic, and for your most recent glorious post about your vision of a future in which these issues need raise no eyebrows or blood pressures, but where all may freely feel fulfilled in personal expression. I honor that vision, and share in it as both possible and desirable.
I, too, have had to delete some rather horrible comments here- all of them from the same person, who is actually a stalker I have from a different area of life entirely. I haven't even blogged about that, because it's just too darned much, actually. But thank you for holding the higher view of me based on experience rather than supposition, for giving me the benefit of the doubt, and for ever being a remarkable teacher, collaborator, and friend. Love to you, ever-returning.
Very eloquent and a lesson in what happens when members of our community jump to conclusions. As I have stated to you personally, it was clear from the first that CAYA's actions were being misrepresented. Your group is a valuable and meaningful part of the Pagan community. Thank You for writing this.
ReplyDeletePeter Dybing
National First Officer
Covenant Of The Goddess
No Coven is right for everyone, but CAYA comes the closet with so many inclusive choices.I'm not surprised that the Amazon rituals could stir controversy, but It is the ultimate irony that CAYA would be considered discriminatory. It really strives hard to live up to it's "Come as you are" philosophy!
ReplyDeleteA lot of the vitriol surrounding this really smacks of the personal and the personal agenda. Unfortunately, the more work that you do in the public eye and the more recognizable you become, these things will happen. People will not always listen to the truth. They will press their own agenda even when the truth refutes it.
Hopefully, over time, more people will fan away the blowing smoke and get a clearer view of CAYA and of the Rabbit some of us are lucky to know well in all her goodness, wearing the perfect imperfection of her humanity while working towards being her highest self and doing the highest good for all.
Even though we don't always agree, I have always found you inspiring, wise and well intentioned! One of the things I admire most about you is that you are both an eternal student and constant teacher!
I'm sorry you have to keep addressing this painful subject. I'm grateful that you persevere to do so.
hello rabbit , first a few statements . i personly support any spiritual practice and have NO anomosity against Dianic practices . with the antifem bias in society and mainstream religions i fully understand the need and existance of dianic paganism. iam male , Sinnsreachd and ADF druid. Now my veiws on the pcon mess . Altho i have no problem w/ fem only blood rituals , in their proper place and time . i do believe holding a cis woman, nude ritual at a pagan convention is not a good idea And is asking for trouble . Unless they are looking for controvery, as some do , i would not recomend doing such a ritual at a public pagan con , b/c controversy and protests is what you'll find . Kilm
ReplyDeleteKilm, thanks for reading and for your post. I sat with your words these long many days, and my ultimate response is that I cannot stop thinking about howany times women, both cis- and trans- have been told they were "asking for trouble" just by virtue of being fully, authentically, controversially themselves in public. And THAT is what I find objectionable- not anyone's right to hold whatever boundaries or create whatever sacred spaces they feel correct for themselves.
ReplyDeleteYeshe: I've gone into some detail about
ReplyDeletemy feelings concerning this rite, about Z Budapest's hateful comments, and about the continuing discussions on this topic.
I do not question the right of Dianics and others to set whatever standards they see fit for membership and inclusion in their organization or rituals. I do question whether it is appropriate to hold a ritual which will only breed divisiveness and resentment at a public convention. To me it smacks of unquestioned privilege and a sense of entitlement - it is as if the APT has decided their right to free association trumps the feelings of transgender attendees and of the organizers who are seeking to hold an event wherein everyone feels safe.
I would invite you and fellow members of the APT to consider this, and to ask what is gained by holding a divisive and controversial ritual in a public place - one which is only going to ensure further resentment and ill feeling against your group.
The same could be said for limiting wbw Dianic rituals at PCon as well Kenaz....there are rituals that are strictly for gay men and gay male mysteries only, the ritual mentioned above where menstruating women aren't allowed to fully participate, but this isn't limited just to Haitian practices, but to some Native
ReplyDeleteAmerican and Orthodox Jewish practices as well.....where a woman is bound to her biology and not allowed to participate because of her menses for whatever the reason given. I thank the Priest/esses of the Vodoun Tradition spelling out the particulars and giving full explanation. I certainly wouldn't want to encourage a huge Earthquake!
Nonetheless despite the historical denial of women in Sacred Rites because we are actively bleeding, we've taken back our power and developed OUR OWN rituals celebrating that Mystery often held against us in mixed religions, by and for ourselves, that original Blood mystery where we felt our power, and men often feared it. It was a reversal to demonize menstruating women as more patriarchal religions took hold....so more Feminist forms of the Craft like Dianic Wicca and others, took back that Power and celebrated it like was done in ancient times.
The Labryis cuts both ways. There are those of us who are radical Dianic oriented DykeAmazons and Michigan Womyn's Music Festival supporters(where we've dealt with alot of these same controversies)that feel that the term 'cis' does NOT represent us, and is in fact offensive to us as bio females/women born women. So, for us, wbw, is a proud term that speaks to who and what we are, and 'cis' has been a term often used against us, that doesn't represent many of us at all..many of us who are Butch Dykes and have NEVER conformed to any kind of female roles, and often considered outside any kind of conventional womonhood and yet we are PROUDLY Female, not trans....
In any case, Rabbit, I thank you for spelling out the ENTIRE debacle and all your responses to it, and for thinking your words and actions through before committing them to print. And I'm sorry you've had to go through this war yet again, to have space for Amazons and women reveling in their Female bodies, celebrating our distinctly Female rites of passage.
I haven't felt drawn to Pantheacon for just these reasons, as my rites are exclusively female focussed(and in particular Amazon and wbw Dianic oriented), and my work is with the Goddess in all Her variations. My spirituality is not up for debate, it is the one place I can truly open(and especially while ritualling on women's land), and can get in touch with my psychic powers and the energies of Goddess, Mother Earth and my Sisters.....it is all very, very personal, and we ALL have the right to our own boundaries and limits around who to ritual with, who to work with, and to seek out likeminded others if we choose. Thanks for all your hard work, and for making Caya a place that many different folks can get their particular needs met.
-FeistyAmazon
FeistyAmazon- thank you for your thoughtful and personal post here and for affirming that CAYA is, indeed, a place where many different needs converge and where they can be met in diverse ways. It is ever our hope to continue to be that force in the Bay Area and wherever else our touch may reach. Spirituality is, indeed, a very personal thing that requires delicate handling, and we are grateful to be that source of compassionate community- along with some healthy boundaries- for many different people.
ReplyDeleteBlessed be,
Rabbit
Kenaz Filan,
ReplyDeleteThank you for taking the time to post your thoughts and links here. It is my hope that anyone reading this who shares your feelings will now be able to find you more readily in the spirit of common beliefs.
As for the content of your post, I feel uncomfortable at your suggestion that Dianics should only perform our rites and feel safe to set our own boundaries in a cloistered, private space. That feels alarmingly like "Don't ask, don't tell" to me. I think the greatest possible point of success in diversity is reached when NO ONE feels that they must compromise who they are, and when we each choose to allow others to be most fully who they are as well in mutual respect, if not agreement.
In terms of the organizers' desires to hold an event where everyone feels safe, I think that PCon staff are already doing an amazing job of that. After all, it is called "PAN-theacon," not "Just-a-few-aCon." That means that ALL voices are represented as valid, within the very reasonable structure that PCon has designed. In case you have not read it, I have included here the link http://pantheacon.com/wordpress/ to the full text of the letter about this upcoming PCon from Glenn Turner, founder of PCon.
"Like the right to free speech, I will defend your right to be different. We thrive best as our borders get stretched and we see many approaches. This is resilience."
Kenaz Filan, I appreciate your scholarship in your field and your commitment to your personal ideals in the world. I respect your right to hold whatever opinions you like, even unfavorable ones about me or my group. And I wish you well.
Blessed be,
Yeshe Rabbit
Hello Rabbit,
ReplyDeleteIt's been a while since you wrote this post, but as I just decided to research the brouhaha at Pantheacon 2011 (again) after reading about Mother of the New Time this morning and wanted to make sure I was energetically supporting a group that includes cis-women. It's a personal caveat of mine when invited to a Dianic ritual. I won't participate unless that inclusiveness exists.
I want to thank you for clarifying your position as well as delineating your view of the events as they unfolded. It makes me happy that I will be able to participate in the Mother of New Time rituals from now on.
Blessings--
Meredith
P.S. Please ignore the blog title. My LJ ID (http://tanith-astlik.livejournal.com/) wasn't allowed for some reason.
Hi Meredith,
ReplyDeleteThanks for writing. I think you may have meant to write "trans-women" where you wrote "cis-women" above? Either way, the Amazon Priestesses have not turned any trans woman away from any public offering, and we welcome our sisters, both cis- and trans- (as well as those who choose not to identify with either of those terms), to participate in the Mothers of the New Time.
I also plan to write about the inclusive nature of our upcoming PCon rites on this blog in the next few days, for the sake of complete clarity.
Blessed be,
Rabbit
Rabbit,
ReplyDeleteI am sorry I am only just now reading this. I would like to address this statement, " Unbeknownst to me, this group had already contacted the Pagan Newswire Collective letting them know that they planned this action."
I was at PantheaCon last year and am also Managing Editor for PNC (although then I was a Bureau Editor). I was not contacted, nor do I know of any other PNC writers or editors who were contacted ahead of time. I'm interested in finding out more about this.
Cara Schulz
Hi Cara,
ReplyDeleteTo be fair to the reporter who told me this, please contact me directly at rabbit (at) sacredwell (dot) com and I will happily send a three-way email. I don't feel comfortable giving out this person's private contact info w/out permission via a blog.
Thank you for following up!
Blessings,
Yeshe Rabbit